Saturday, September 02, 2006

come again?

"When a baby is born it is interesting to see the nature upon which it acts, which is inherently self centred and therefore sinful. The only thing that matters to a baby is it's own needs and desires, it is it's own god. But I do also believe in a babies innocence due to it's ignorance of it's own sinful nature. The key idea is that sin is a part of our nature from birth, thus a part of us and our makeup, permeating every one of the components mentioned above. Our mission is to turn our nature around, to "no longer conform to the pattern of this world" and to reflect Christ by working to change our character, not separate parts of it.

If we accept that we are inherently evil and need a complete renewal, rather than thinking we are actually perfect with a bit of excess bad bagagge, only then can we truly work to change.

The only value I see in separating the sin from the sinner is that it becomes easier for us to love all people."

-- http://www.sciforums.com/archive/index.php/t-2390.html



Meaning???

I recognize that this is from an independent religious forum, so I will be gentle. (yeah what's with the sci in the url?)


Inherently evil? I vouch that we have equal capacities for good and bad.

I do not understand the Christian doctrine of being born into sin. All I can sense from a newborn child is hope and innocence amidst the child's so called ignorance. What a beautiful stage of life, who can disagree?

3 comments:

A_Shadow said...

Oh I can disagree and you better believe I will.

But not this time.

I believe that your true potential is in ignorance.

Not your true sin.

Obviously you need to move on, and can't but help to move on into the world.

But I have long held that humanity has built itself on flawed foundations, and only by ignoring those can we right ourselves.

There's a reason why I have no qualms about disregarding Einsteins theories and teachings. He was just smarter than everyone at the time, that doesn't make him perfect or have some sort of special insight into the universes mechanisms, he just had no fear to question.

So I seek the same.

You can't just tell me it's right and that's how it is.

It doesn't work like that for me as everyone else, and it shouldn't work for everyone else.

Search your heart, search your mind, and prove it.

Anyways, there's a reason why I try to keep an annoying and childlike curiosity about new things to learn.

vermilion said...

Whoah...

No really... I mean Whoah.

There's a handful of insight there that I really needed to hear.

That truly is a new perspective.

Sometimes I don't know what to do with the pieces that refuse to fit. My personal algorithms would point elsewhere on the map and just start anew...

but that's not always neccessary.

whoah...

vermilion said...

...thanks.